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[10.31.2008]
Obama and McCain: Jerusalem and Israel

Friends of Israel are deeply involved in the Presidential campaign to elect a friend of Israel as President of the United States. This campaign involves a battle over the so-called Jewish vote but also involves voters who believe that Israel is part of the international confrontation between radical Islam and the West.

There are Friends of Israel in two opposing camps.

One camp feels that the road to peace with radical Islam lies with an Israel that is willing to talk and make painful concessions of land (including Jerusalem) to Islamic forces. 

The other camp maintains that Israel needs to reassert its commitment to fight (if need be) its enemies because that is what it takes to protect the Jewish State.

For both camps Jerusalem is ground zero. The negotiators camp argues that Israel must give up parts of Jerusalem to bring peace, the other camp argues that giving up even a portion of Jerusalem will encourage radical Islamic forces to continue their push for the annihilation of the State of Israel.

In September, it became clear that the Obama campaign had representatives of both camps under its roof.

Obama declared in a speech before AIPAC ( the large pro-Israel lobbying organization) that if he is elected he would not support the division of Jerusalem. Shortly after this declaration he clarified his position. In other words Jerusalem could be divided.

McCain has not expressed his views as dramatically on this issue. McCain did support legislation to move the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and has steadfastly supported Israel in its requests for military armaments to defend the country.

Obama has not been in the Senate long enough to have a record on this or on any other issues (Its hard to believe he has been a Senator for less than three years) but his campaign has indicated that it will dramatically reduce overall military spending which could impact on America's ability to supply Israel with necessary military hardware.

Obama has won the support of some prominent supporters of Israel. Most recently, Alan Dershowitz.

McCain has also gained the support of prominent defenders of Israel. Charles Krauthammer presents the pro-McCain case here

Along with these set of issues, friends of Israel should be concerned about the McCain-Obama differences on policy toward Iran. 

Obama has famously declared he will participate in talks with Iran without any preconditions. While he has somewhat modified this position he maintains that direct talks with Israel's enemy, that has sworn to wipe it off the face of the earth, is the road to peace.

McCain has branded this approach naive and misguided. Some McCain supporters have likened the Obama approach to British Prime Minister Chamberlain who held talks with Hitler instead of actively opposing him. History has concluded that the Chamberlain approach contributed to the start of World War II.

While McCain's advisers have not caused any controversy, Obama's associations have raised questions about who is influencing his foreign policy. Obama has had associations with (in the words of an Obama supporter) the"rabidly anti-Israel Palestinian academic" Rashid Khalidi, the anti-semitic Jeremiah Wright, and academic critics of Israel.

Who would help protect Israel and the United States? You will have the opportunity to decide this Tuesday.

 
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Neither, one man would have but seems no one wants a good honest G-d fearing man.

Obama keeps saying that his position on Israel is "non-negotiable." Trouble is that he hasn't bothered to tell anybody exactly what that position is. Beware!

It is strange that the Map of what will be left of Israel after meeting Moslem concession demands looks very much like Southeast Asia, where we came in second place in the War Games ... We need to stop screwing around and put Netanyahu in the PM's Office and STOP giving away, or allowing the Land that Ha'Shem gave to US, to be raped away from us ... Genug es genug ...

I am an American Jew and I support Obama for many reasons. I don't trust McCain to really know the nuances of much. He is clearly very quick to act before he thinks. His choice of Sarah Palin is frightening to me. Obama is a brilliant man who will always listen and be able to respond rather than react. I pray, for the good of the USA and Israel as well as our planet, that Obama wins this election.

Your summary of the "difference" is not very even handed. Let's try it like this: Yes. Obama believes in negotiation with Iran as did Nixon with China, McCain believes in strength and tough talk as did Bush ll in Iraq.
The analogy is obvious.

How could a Jew vote for o bomb a ?

He does not support Isreal!

The Iran bad guy wants bother o bomb a !

I would not characterize the Labor Zionists as friends of Israel. They have made it clear their goal is an Israel without borders and a one world government. By those criteria Israel, the only Jewish state on the planet, would cease to exist. Beyond that, their intent to divide the land is in defiance of Torah and will only bring judgment on the earth. When will people learn that you cannot appease or negotiate with those who have stated their only goal is the annihilation of the Jewish people? I would think that lesson would have been seared into people's hearts and collective conscience by the events of the holocaust and the last world war.

There are a growing number of individuals and even institutions in the US that are weaving the threads of anti-semitism and Islamo-Nazi extremism. This is already a reality in Europe, where I travel frequently. A vote for Obama would be to turn the United States into a mill of appeasers, starry-eyed for their charismatic leader, and ingnorant as to the lesssons of history. In short, a vote other than for McCain, would leave the country tailor made for disaster. What an Obamanation?!

People that vote for Obama are not friends of Israel.

My dad says no matter who gets elected that we are in a whole lot of trouble, world events being what they are. I do believe this too. So the thing to do is do the right thing, that is to to encourage Israel to defend itself and do what it takes to survive. If Israel isn't safe we certainly are not.

BS'D

Why do you call the camp that wants
to make more painful concessions of Israel's sacred land, including
JERUSALEM...
Friends of Israel:"?
They are "enemies of Israel" who
help to weaken the Jewish State and
strengthen the resolve of Arab terrorists
to continue their murderous attacks
upon innocent Israel men, women and
children in their ongoing war to
"liberate palestine" (sic)
As for Alan Dershowitz' endorsement
of Obama, ...he apparently is the same
dyed in the wool liberal whom I debated
on my radio program "Jewish News and
Views" where he also endorsed the right
of the American nazis to parade
in Chicago.
Shifra Hoffman
Founder, VAT INTERNATIONAL
Exec. Director -SHUVA (The Israel Emergency Aliyah Movement)
(Website:www.shuva.net)

If the Jewish people do not see the absolute danger in electing Barrack Hussein Obama as President of the United States; then history truly fails its purpose. I am an American and I have already seen the damage to people and individuals nationwide that is the result of a liberal Nazi like movement that parallels what happened in Germany in the early 1930s. If Obama gets elected you have no one to turn to in a time of crisis when hesitation well destroy your nation. My friends in Delta command and US Special Forces do not support Obama. That should be a clue to you.

The problem is a spiritual one. You cannot make peace with Islam.

I am very suprised, that so many Jewish people in USA are standing with Obama as everybody knows, that he is not a friend of Israel and he is inexperienced full of worlds and he is dishonest.

My good friends in the US Special Forces and Delta Command share a common belief. Barrack Hussein Obama is not a friend of the US Defense System and will take drastic steps to cut budgets to deliver his promises for social causes. I urge all those who support Israel to do what they can to defeat Obama. His campaign tactics are raising red flags by denying reporters access. All across America you can find examples of people who have had their lives and property destroyed by the zealous supporters of Obama who could not care less about an individual but will act by the name of the common good in the name of Islam. A hesitation by Obama as a Commander in Chief will result in the total destruction of Israel.

A president with ties to anti-Israel personalities is in the end better for Israel than a hard line pro Israel president. No president of the USA will drop support for Israel, as being the only trustworthy ally in the Middle East.

A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.

The difference between Obama and Osama is B.S.!

Gentlemen:
If the Iraelites cannot tell the difference between both candidates, then it is in deep yogart! I am also puzzled how many Jews are Democrats considering the associations Obama has made with anti-semites! I only pray to God to save Israel and his people!
Shalom,
Dan

obaminable is NOT a friend of Israel, not by any stretch of the imagination. He's a muslim with muslim heritage, muslim training, muslim friends and supports islam. If he were really a christian, there would be a fatwa against him for converting to christianity. However, instead, he is embraced by the islamists, attends their functions, supports them and is supported by them and his campaign is being conducted by them and, especially, funed by international islamists and jihadists. His grandmother recently stated, uniquivocally, that "MY grandson is a muslim", shortly after which he visited her, without his wife or children, lying about her being sick. At the time time, his wife said about his grandmother "Oh, Toots is fine." I suspect he went to her to silence her. He admitted that he and his wife burnt American flags in college. He said, freudian or otherwise, "...my musim faith." No, he is certainly NOT for Israel, Jews or the United States of America.

Netanyahu is like McCain in the sense that, although he may deviate occassionally, he's is FOR SURE the lesser evil of ALL of Israel's present contenders.

Four important points to know before voting:

1) The most well-known is that Iran publicly threatens to "wipe Israel off the face of the map", Heaven Forbid.

The major difference between McCain and Obama on this issue is that McCain believes diplomacy should not be conducted with Iran, while Obama does. The question is, when, if at all, would Obama were he to become president take military action against Iran - before Iran possesses a nuclear bomb, or after Iran has the ability to pursue nuclear war, Heaven Forbid.

The threat from Iran, a country focused on Israel's destruction, is imminent and must be addressed:

2) UPDATED U.S. INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE ON IRANIAN NUCLEAR THREAT:

According to a recently amended U.S. Intelligence Estimate, Iran will be able to build their first nuclear bomb by February, 2009, within a few short weeks of the next president taking power.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5660

Quote from Obama's website:

While Obama's website doesn't mention the option of attacking Iran, it does highlight as significant his resolution to preclude any act of Congress from giving the Bush administration even the option to attack Iran.

3) "Obama and Biden believe that it was reckless for Congress to give George Bush any justification to extend the Iraq War or to attack Iran. Obama also introduced a resolution in the Senate declaring that no act of Congress – including Kyl-Lieberman – gives the Bush administration authorization to attack Iran."

http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/foreign_policy/

Note, this statement was made subsequent to the Kyl-Lieberman act as well as to Obama's resolution:

4) Joe Biden even threatened to impeach President Bush if he would decide to bomb Iran in order to try to stop it's nuclear program.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071129/NEWS/71129018

For a presidential and vice-presidential candidate - Obama and Biden - to work to try to deny the president to even have the authority to attack Iran, should provide an indication of what Israel may have to deal with if these candidates were to win, chas v'shalom.

My, how the obvious is totally ignored.... Only ONE candidate stands for Biblical values, the U.S. Constitution and ( most importantly ) UNEQUIVOCALLY for Israel--- Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party !!! Ah, but he, like Ron Paul, is absolutely ignored by the vast majority ( he's TOO good !! ) of both voters and pundits. Even the so-called 'christian leaders' are blinded to the truth and are prisoners of the "2-party" big box system. Neither the GOP nor Democrat are anywhere near fit for the office of President of the United States of America, given their absolute disregard for its constitution and G_D's view of morality and life's matters. I'll admit that Obama is satanic, while McCain is merely questionable, but what a shame to have to vote (again) for the 'lesser of two evils' ( still evil ) when we have a REAL alternative. May Ha'Shem intervene on the part of Israel and the U.S. Baruch Ha'Shem.

I would like a definate answer by Obama: Will he promise to put the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem as McCain has? McCain understands that Jerusalem IS the undivided capital of Israel and plainly states so. Obama wants to "talk" about it. He in fact makes no commitment - until he gives Israel's Sovereignty (sp?) away to a people who will - and have, armed themselves to take all of Israel as "their" right under Islamic law.

Obama's past and present associations with radicals are coming out more daily! Only the independent press seems to be covering and the blogs....hard to believe that he has no verifiable passport....know that he travels/ed with his Indonesian passport....and Indonesia doesn't allow muslim male citizen to have children with female non-citizens unless the woman will renounce their foreign citizenship. Check out web info! As an Israeli-American I can only marvel at the ignorance of many American Jews.

I am terrified at the prospect of a President Barack Hussein Obama. It really is like Germany 1933. The Obama campaign uses Gestapo tactics with it's threats to those who DARE criticize him. He is BLACKLISTING certain journalists for asking fair questions. He is so self-serving and egotistical. His true priority is being President and having all the powers that come with that. He will drastically reduce military spending which will seriously diminish our military might. Israel will not be able to rely on a President Obama in times of crisis. Anyone who supports America AND Israel should not vote for Barack Hussein Obama.

A vote for Obama is a vote for appeasement to Iran and appeasement to terrorism.
It's a vote to push Israel into concessions that endanger her existence.
"Those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it" (Santayana)
Batsheva

There will come a time when a U.S. President will turn his back on Israel, and it seems like Obama may be the man. If anyone has the qualifications to betray Isarel, it is Obama. American Jews that vote for him are not only putting in jeopardy the U.S., but Isarel too. It's a shame.

I happen to like Obama as does San Francisco. I totally disagree with Marlene, where does she get her "information" that Obama is Muslim? His father was but Daddy took off for parts unknown, he was raised by his grandparents in Hawaii and is a Christian. His former pastor showed his ignorance when he spouted off anti Semetic lies, and Obama disengaged himself from Mr. Wright very fast.

What sunk Mr. McCain was his running mate who is disliked in Alaska. I have concrete proof of this from someone who lives there in her town she moved to as a child. She is not an environmentalist and signed into law the aerial shooting of wolves. No thanks, I'll take Obama. Thanks

I am one of many evangelicals who love and support Israel and cannot understand why any Jew would vote for Obama. It is heartbreaking especially since Obama made a committment in regards to keeping Jerusalem undivided one day and changed his story the next. Doesn't that frighten anyone?
We are praying for McCain a tried and true patriot to win the election. A tested defender of his country is worth voting for. What has Obama ever done to win him such a place of power and trustworthiness. Why should Israel trust him when those who support Israel the most do not.

Both Benjamin Netanyahu and John McCain are best for the positions they are seeking. And yes, this is spiritual warfare.

I would not vote for either because they are undoubtedly in the Senior Bush's back pocket! As Jews please do your research on Prescot Bush, W's grandfather, and you will see what I mean and read all that you need to know! Financial collapse and "Martial Law" are planned for the U.S. ~ and yes, "camps"!
Shalom in the Messiah Who is coming soon!

Interesting comments. Israel is a sovereign state and should not depend on anyone to defend it. Israel should trust God if it really does believe in the Torah. Any nation in the world, and that includes USA and Israel, first responsibility is to defend its citizen. Israel has on a number of years depended on friendly nations to support and make no mistake, I support Israel, pray for peace of Jerusalem daily - my portion is Via delerosa but I pray for the Jewish state daily. What we need to know is that the world is changing and we cannot rely on others to defend us. We need to trust God for Israel and also ensure that the Jews are not fighting among themselves - that is what is happening now. If an Israel PM is pressured to giving land to the Palestinians and he does, who is worse, a USA President or an Israel PM? Jews need to come together on the position of Jerusalem not being devided. The outgoing PM almost made a deal to divide Jerusalem - may be that's why God has removed him. The Livni is no better as she will continue to consider division of Jerusalem. Leave the American alone as they have enough on the plates. Whether McCain or Obama, their first responsibility will be to take care of America and will join other world leaders to put pressure on Israel to subdivide Jerusalem. Look as to who they are looking to in assistance for the credit crunch, the ME and their vast oil. So why single out one person or two? The Jews should look to God who has been with them in the past. If they believe the Torah, then they must believe in a God who parted the Red Sea and who can still do so even now. You should elect Bibi and rally behind him and save yourselves.!

Because of the power Obama would have as president it is imperative that all Jewish Americans should vote for McCain. If Obama should become president and appoint two judges to the supreme court the liberals would have complete reigjn of the Congress/Courts/President. Americans would lose rights left & right. All the morals of the right would disapear along with the pledge of allegiance, In God we Trust. The USA would become known for abortions and perverted life styles. The American flag would not be waving for the free. Now if the reason they would vote for Obama would be to hasten the Lords Day. That may happen! Shalom,

As has been said by many other bloggers - Obama is NO friend of Israel. Who is a friend of is radical Muslims who hate Israel and who hate America. Any one who says they love Israel and then votes for Obama is either lying to themselves or an idiot (or perhaps both). Obama burns American flags, he will certainly burn the Israeli flag as well. Obama will have Muslim terrorists in the white house (as did Clinton) as frequent guests and advisors. If Obama wins, Israel can kiss official American support goodbye and you had better prepare yourself for an armed confrontation with Iran and Russia - because it will be coming ...sorry to say it, but it will happen as Obama will pull all support for Israel (and any other true friend of America) away as he invests our money in the UN and Muslim causes around the globe.

Many Supporters of Israel here in America are supporting McCain. Maybe it's because we did our homework and saw what our outrageous media will not admit. He will NOTsupport Israel. We need the American Jews to help us in this vote. At the same time we continue to pray fervently that Israel elects one who maintains strong solidarity. We MUST stick together in the name of G...d.
Barb S.
Columbus Ohio

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