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[07.16.2010]
Governor Pataki on the Ground Zero Mosque
 
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To put it bluntly, it's treasonous. For anyone to be in defiance to our national standards of living free. Jihadist want Sharia Law not our law. That is treason!

I agree with Governor Pataki on the Ground Zero Mosque One Hundred Percent.

It must be stopped in sight of the destruction of our two financial buildings at sound zero.

How can one even think of such an insult to the dead. I have never even read one in article in 10 years from a muslin saying that there are some
radicals/terrorists within their people.

I wonder how many non-Muslims realize that the Moslems have an old principle, which is that a mosque needs to be taller than buildings of other religions.
Please note the proposed height of this mosque, which should NOT be built anywhere near ground zero.

Free and open society has become a magnet for people who want to destroy such societies because their see the naivety of such governments who seem to have forgotten that theirrole is to PROTECT their society. Stop the nonsense

Has anyone visited Southern Spain? When the Muslims conquered territories they erected mosques over churches, In Israel they built a mosque on the site of the second temple. Now they will celebrate their 9/11victory by building a mosque at the heart of the US financial district. Hello. Is anybody there? How can this happen? Where are our leaders? Are they all clueless? Have they been bought off? Maybe they need to read a history text. Wake up America!

I agree with Governor Pataki that this mega-mosque is highly inappropriate. This is not an issue of tolerance, nor is it one of freedom of religion. It IS, however, a symbol of Islamic ascendancy - and will be understood as such in the Muslim world. Since the time of Mohammad it has been the Muslim practice of taking over or building mosques on the ruins of symbols of the conquered. These places then become "holy" Islamic shrines. The placement of the mosque in the shadow of the WTC is not by chance. The WTC was not simply a collection of business offices, it was the symbol of American power and dominance. This is why it was targeted - and this is why this site has been chosen.
Additionally, this is only one of the two mega-mosques in the planning stages for lower Manhattan. Has the number of local Muslims grown so great that they can not be accomodated in normal sized houses of worship? I am not aware of any other houses of worship of this size, e.g. Christian, Jewish, Buddhist.

What a joke! This thing would be an abomination. How can anyone with half a brain even consider this? This is just SO VERY WRONG!! Please listen!! This is wrong. The muslims involved in this don't want to "worship" there they just want to gloat there. Let them do that in Arab nations.

It is my sincere hopes after we have rid ourselves of the Moslem Trojan in the White House, there will be a total reversal of all his having signed into law, especailly this sickening healthcare bill. I believe there should be a reversal of the majority of laws passed during this Obama presidency, and there serious needs of an investigation into many of the Obama liberals presently in the congress and senate. They remind me of Adolf Hitler'ss henchmen, that with him they brought Germany to total disgrace. Obama is in my opinion a very evil person.

It's really foolishness! I can't understand the attitude of governor Georges Pataki. The american people must stop that.

Muslims don't think there are radicals in their religion/politic/law because they are not; they're just doing the will of their god.

The words/actions of all these leaders/presidents/prime ministers &. it reads like the 1st book of Enoch.

Tolerance is a two-way street. Apart from the gross insensititvity of building a triumphal mosque near the site of an Islamic attack on New York, one must ask when Christians will be allowed to build a cathedral in Saudi Arabia?

This is deeply disrespectful to those who lost their lives. In Europe we have assumed that tolerance of people preaching hate would gradually change them to western values. Please do not make the same mistake in your country. Especially on what is in fact a war cemetary.

Where's Timothy McVeigh when we need him.?

Remember both Osama and Obama are Moslems..

Governor Pataki is completely right! We are in a rear guard action for our very lives, and if we give in now, we may as well pack it in. I would say and then go home, but we are at home! This is the biggest home invasion ever. We have the RIGHT to get rid of the invader.

First Amendment: USConstitution: Religion: "...Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious beliefs and opinions, they may with practices...." Wikipedia
We are not prejudice against any religion, at least I'm not, but I do vehemently object to some religious practices such as human sacrifice, cult brainwashing, bigamy and building Symbols that inspire Suicide bombers, beheadings and incitements to Terrorize.
It is a fact that the love of Allah, Islam and the Koran incited the Terrorists to strike the NY Twin Towers on 9/11/2001 and cause approximately 3000 people to be killed and many of their ashes spread over the killing grounds, never to be found.
It is also a fact that people who claim to be peaceful but would willfully build a Mosque, the Symbol of Allah, Islam and the Koran on the ashes of the dead, killed in the abomination of 9/11 are not peaceful to those who object to insult.
Being a really peaceful people would require understanding of the survivors the families, friends and fellow citizens of those killed, denunciation of the Terrorists and the relinquishment of the plans to build the Mosque on hallowed ground.
We have no objections to Muslims building a Mosque in a different location, at least I do not. BUT to know all our feelings and build it at GZ NY anyway is to break peace with us.
If you break peace with us, then as we pledged on 9/11 WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
If you build this MOSQUE I and many, many others will feel that you all are a people who do not respect our beliefs our dead or the Sovereignty of our Nation nor do you intend to be assimilated (breaking your pact of US Citizenship) but, are a people who are intent on forcing your building and your beliefs on us as if our country is part of YOUR community and you must purify us or you may declare Jihad against us. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WHAT MOTIVATED THE PUSH TO HAVE A SCREAMING ISLAMIC MARK (GIANT MOSQUE) NEAR GROUND ZERO?

Are the Muslims, knowing the weakness of the West, trying to take advantage of the increasing Islamophilia of American politicians/leaders and the complacency of the American Christians to push Islam in the increasingly de-Christianized West?
Or
Are they (the Muslims) trying to merely bridge the cultural gap between Muslims and the West by having a shouting Islamic landmark near ground zero (even though they don’t believe it is necessary to so bridge cultural gap in their countries by allowing churches to be built in their cities even by local Christians)?
Or
Does it not amount to naked triumphalism and fooling of the West for Muslims, who are globally known to oppose the building of churches in their cities, to want to build an imposing mosque near the spot where fellow Muslims unleashed JIHAD on many innocent ‘kaffirs’ -----is it not a way of showing fellow Muslims in the Third World how powerful Islam is even in a strategic Western city of New York.

Contrary to the proposed mosque's supporters, no mosque anywhere is a 'center for all religions.' A mosque is a sign of triumph over a defeated country or culture. A mosque exterior near GZ is bad enough; what's worse is what goes on inside some mosques: indoctrination of hatred of Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslim infidels. Behind mosque walls, Muslims will be recruited to teach and to spread hatred against America, Americans, and the Western way of life.
Mayor Bloomberg seems insane on this subject.

How about building the mosque directly top of ground zero? Why push it off a few hundred feet. Maybe they would pay more for the honor. Great for the city's budget, you know.

Oh - and don't worry about the mosque remaining unfinished. Just look a the former site of the temple of King David in Jerusalem. There has been a mosque conveniently placed on top of this most holy place by the Moslems. They also have a full throttle PR campaign on-going for years to fill their brainwashed followers that there was never a Jewish presence on the Temple Mount.

Wow - this is great! In a few decades maybe we won't have to talk about 9/11 any more. The mosque will be our focal point and source of comfort instead.

Please Mayor Bloomberg - WAKE UP!

After doing a lot of research on Islam, trying to cut through the stereotypical thinking that some may have about Islam and after engaging in many friendly one-on-one conversations with Muslims, it can be concluded that many in the West do not have a clue as to what is really going on.

The site of the mosque coupled with the height of the mosque establish a "symbolic dominance" over all other religious structures in a city. Sounds silly? Do your own research. The height of a premier mosque like the one proposed to be built in NYC is especially important.

Below is information adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. Hammond was born in Cape Town, South Africa in 1960, growing up as a Muslim in what was then called, Rhodesia.

Here are some of Hammond's insights:

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well..

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 1%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel." -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Some readers may view this as "hate speech." Take a look around and counter this with any empirical evidence that provides a reasonable response to what has been posted. Study the percentages of Muslims in the countries mentioned above and determine for yourself whether or not the societal impact is indeed true...

This is wrong. I am amazed it is even being considered. Where are we America? Are all of our leaders be bought off? Please don't amandon us now.

We seem to forget that ground zero happens to be a Grave Site. Thousands of human beings perished there and were never recovered. They are still there in every granule of earth on that land. Absolutely NOT should a mosque be built on this grave site. This would be the equivalent of allowing the Japanese to build a place of worship of their religion right on the shore next to the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor! I hope that if thie rediculousness does not stop, and plans go forward to build the mosque...that all union workers (regardless of the fact that it means a job to them) refuse to work on the project.

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