Secretary Of State Rice Asks Jimmy Carter For Advice
[10.28.2007]
Ex-President Carter who is the champion of the Palestinian cause against Israel has been selected by Condoleeza Rice to advise on her latest misguided attempt to force Israel into making concessions that will endanger the State of Israel and divide Jerusalem.
Rice's latest Middle East initiative sounds like it was drafted by Carter.
It baffles me to no end how 2 people (Bush and Rice) claiming to be Christian, could even consider trying to convince Israel to give up the Holy Temple Mount. Bush has proven over and over again, that he isn't the smartest president we ever had, but to side with the Palestinians over possession of the Temple Mount? Now I doubt his sanity too. The Bible clearly states that no man has the authority to take what G-d has given to his people of Israel. I pray for your strength and courage to fight for what is rightfully yours, and I pray for my country, that when G-d pours out his wrath upon us, may it only inflict the anti-semetics that are going against his will. May peace and strength be with you.
Posted by: Lyn Beavers at November 5, 2007 7:03 AM
Because no one but Alan Dershowitz can better explain WHY choosing Jimmy Carter to consult with on issues involving Israel is the most ILLOGICAL COUNTER-INTUITIVE solution, i have taken the liberty of copying his piece on Carter here for you:
Subject: EX-PRESIDENT FOR SALE- BY ALAN DERSHOWITZ
Jimmy Carter is making more money selling integrity than peanuts. I
have known Jimmy Carter for more than 30 years. I first met him in the
spring of 1976 when, as a relatively unknown candidate for president,
he sent me a handwritten letter asking for my help in his campaign on
issues of crime and justice.
I had just published an article in The New York Times Magazine on
sentencing reform, and he expressed interest in my ideas and asked me
to come up with additional ones for his campaign.
Shortly thereafter, my former student, Stuart Eisenstadt, brought
Carter to Harvard to meet with some faculty members, me among them. I
immediately liked Jimmy Carter and saw him as a man of integrity and
principle. I signed on to his campaign and worked very hard for his
election.
When Newsweek magazine asked his campaign for the names of people on
whom Carter relied for advice, my name was among those given out. I
continued to work for Carter over the years, most recently I met him
in Jerusalem a year ago, and we briefly discussed the Mid-East.
Though I disagreed with some of his points, I continued to believe
that he was making them out of a deep commitment to principle and to
human rights.
Recent disclosures of Carter's extensive financial connections to Arab
oil money, particularly from Saudi Arabia, had deeply shaken my belief
in his integrity. When I was first told that he received a monetary
reward in the name of Sheik Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan, and kept the
money, even after Harvard returned money from the same source because
of its anti-Semitic history, I simply did not believe it. How could a
man of such apparent integrity enrich himself with dirty money from so
dirty a source?
And let there be no mistake about how dirty the Zayed Foundation is. I
know because I was involved, in a small way, in helping to persuade
Harvard University to return more than $2 million that the financially
strapped Divinity School received from this source.
Initially I was reluctant to put pressure on Harvard to turn back
money for the Divinity School, but then a student at the Divinity
School, Rachael Lea Fish, showed me the facts.
They were staggering. I was amazed that in the 21st century there were
still foundations that espoused these views. The Zayed Centre for
Coordination and Follow-up (a think-tank funded by the Sheik and run
by his son) hosted speakers who called Jews "the enemies of all
nations," attributed the assassination of John Kennedy to Israel and
the Mossad and the 9/11 attacks to the United States' own military,
and stated that the Holocaust was a "fable." (They also hosted a
speech by Jimmy Carter.) To its credit, Harvard turned the money back.
To his discredit, Carter did not.
Jimmy Carter was, of course, aware of Harvard's decision, since it was
highly publicized. Yet he kept the money. Indeed, this is what he said
in accepting the funds: "This award has special significance for me
because it is named for my personal friend, Sheik Zayed bin Sultan
al-Nahyan." Carter's personal friend, it turns out, was an
unredeemable anti-Semite and all-around bigot.
In reading Carter's statements, I was reminded of the bad old Harvard
of the 1930s, which continued to honor Nazi academics after the
anti-Semitic policies of Hitler's government became clear. Harvard of
the 1930s was complicit in evil. I sadly concluded that Jimmy Carter
of the 21st century has become complicit in evil. The extent of
Carter's financial support from, and even dependence on, dirty money
is still not fully known.
What we do know is deeply troubling. Carter and his Center have
accepted millions of dollars from suspect sources, beginning with the
bail-out of the Carter family peanut business in the late 1970s by
BCCI, a now-defunct and virulently anti-Israeli bank indirectly
controlled by the Saudi Royal family, and among whose principal
investors is Carter's friend, Sheik Zayed. Agha Hasan Abedi, the
founder of the bank, gave Carter "$500,000 to help the former
president establish his center...[and] more than $10 million to Mr.
Carter's different projects."
Carter gladly accepted the money, though Abedi had called his bank -
ostensibly the source of his funding - "the best way to fight the evil
influence of the Zionists."
BCCI isn't the only source; Saudi King Fahd contributed millions to
the Carter Center : "in 1993 alone ... $7.6 million" as have other
members of the Saudi Royal Family. Carter also received a million
dollar pledge from the Saudi-based bin Laden family, as well as a
personal $500,000 environmental award named for Sheik Zayed, and paid
for by the Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates.
It's worth noting that, despite the influx of Saudi money funding the
Carter Center, and despite the Saudi Arabian government's myriad human
rights abuses, the Carter Center's Human Rights program has no
activity whatever in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have apparently bought
his silence for a steep price.
The bought quality of the Center's activities becomes even more clear,
however, when reviewing the Center's human rights activities in other
countries: essentially no human rights activities in China or in North
Korea, or in Iran, Iraq, the Sudan, or Syria, but activity regarding
Israel and its alleged abuses, according to the Center's website.
The Carter Center's mission statement claims that "The Center is
nonpartisan and acts as a neutral party in dispute resolution
activities." How can that be, given that its coffers are full of Arab
money, and that its focus is away from significant Arab abuses and on
Israel's far less serious ones?
No reasonable person can dispute therefore that Jimmy Carter has been
and remains dependent on Arab oil money, particularly from Saudi
Arabia.
Does this mean that Carter has necessarily been influenced in his
thinking about the Middle East by receipt of such enormous amounts of
money? Ask Carter. The entire premise of his criticism of Jewish
influence on American foreign policy is that money talks.
It is Carter, not I, who has made the point that if politicians
receive money from Jewish sources, they are not free to decide issues
regarding the Middle East for themselves.
It is Carter, not I, who has argued that distinguished reporters
cannot honestly report on the Middle East because they are being paid
by Jewish money. So, by Carter's own standards, it would be almost
economically "suicidal" for Carter "to espouse a balanced position
between Israel and Palestine. "
By Carter's own standards, therefore, his views on the Middle East
must be discounted. It is certainly possible that he now believes
them. Money - particularly large amounts of money - has a way of
persuading people to a particular position.
It would not surprise me if Carter, having received so much Arab
money, is now honestly committed to their cause. But his failure to
disclose the extent of his financial dependence on Arab money, and the
absence of any self -reflection on whether the receipt of this money
has unduly influenced his views, is a form of deception bordering on
corruption.
I have met cigarette lobbyists, who are supported by the cigarette
industry, and who have come to believe honestly that cigarettes are
merely a safe form of adult recreation, that cigarettes are not
addicting and that the cigarette industry is really trying to persuade
children not to smoke.
These people are fooling themselves (or fooling us into believing that
they are fooling themselves) just as Jimmy Carter is fooling himself
(or persuading us to believe that he is fooling himself).
If money determines political and public views (as Carter insists
"Jewish money" does ) then Carter's views on the Middle East must be
deemed to have been influenced by the vast sums of Arab money he has
received. If he who pays the piper calls the tune, then Carter's
off-key tunes have been called by his Saudi Arabian paymasters. It
pains me to say this, but I now believe that there is no person in
American public life today who has a lower ratio of real integrity to
apparent integrity than Jimmy Carter.
The public perception of his integrity is extraordinarily high. His
real integrity, it now turns out, is extraordinarily low. He is no
better than so many former American politicians who, after leaving
public life, sell themselves to the highest bidder and become
lobbyists for despicable causes.
That is now Jimmy Carter's sad legacy.
Author Alan M. Dershowitz is the Felix Frankfurter professor of law at
Harvard Law School and author of The Case for Israel.
Posted by: Lily Rosenblatt at November 4, 2007 5:14 PM
It's interesting to see this happening in light of the fact that Ezekial hints that the U.S. will stand idly by while much of the world tries to decimate Israel. Will we have Rice and Carter to thank for that? Luckily, God, in His infinite widsom, won't let Israel go it alone.
Posted by: Tom Weikel at November 3, 2007 7:48 AM
The majority of the world's hot spots & conflicts seem to be Muslim nations or Muslim ethnic groups that don't seem to be able to live at peace with their neighbors or even other Muslims, it also appears that Israel plays no part in those other conflicts,how would carving up Israel & handing it over to radicals like Hamas & the PLO. add one bit to world peace.
Palestinian Muslim have also driven out Palestinian Christians from traditional Christian
enclaves, "peaces but there is no peace".
Posted by: DUANE EVANS at November 3, 2007 5:26 AM
The times are very scary indeed, it just goes to show you that even when you profess to be a christian there is unbelief in actions. Surely they have read the Bible but don't believe that maybe they can be a part of scripture. They assume their just doing their job which is probably the case. God clearly says do not divide his land! Kind of feel like we're walking on shaky ground.
Posted by: J. Daniels at November 2, 2007 2:45 PM
I was always taught TWO things at shul and in the home:
1-Jerusalem and Israel are at the heart of Judaism;
2-Jews are smart people.
Right now I wonder if ANY of what I was taught, and do believe, is still the case.
Look what happened to Rabin, Sharon, and Olmert (cancer) when they tried to give away G-d's eternal gift to the JEws, as a homeland. Look at how foolish it was to give away Gaza, or to leave Southern Lebanon. How dumb can our "leaders" get? Secular fools, who remember little of G-d's Torah.
Posted by: Hymie Zoltzveis at November 2, 2007 1:05 PM
Ms. Rice: God has a message for you. Please read Isaiah 17:12-14 and act accordingly....
Posted by: Ernie P. at November 2, 2007 12:45 PM
Condi, this must be amateur night for the White House. Why Carter? I'm sure that Assad or Ahmadinejad can offer better advice for you than HE can.
Your attempt will FAIL; you are wasting your time and have completely LOST any credibility you might have had (???).
This is a shame and a disgrace.
Posted by: Cheryl Mavrikos at November 2, 2007 7:15 AM
The US always claimed to be nonbiased and fair but the combination of these two indicates a strong shift to the antisemitic antiIsrael sector and auguars very bad results for the Jewish people both in Israel and the world. All we can hope is tht this is an isolated case and not indicative of the feelings of both parties. but it makes one wonder what the future for Jews in America that such hateful individuals can be so importnt to Isrel's future. It only proves one thing--Antisemites find each other no matter what their other differences.
Posted by: Hilda at November 2, 2007 6:30 AM
The scarey part of having Carter working with Rice means that President Bush feels the same way or there woulnd't be this alliance. What ever happened to our Christian, George Bush, who should be defending Israel against all her enemies, not aiding and abetting them.
Posted by: Barbara at November 1, 2007 11:19 PM
Miss Rice,
I wonder, if you succeed with this, if you win your Nobel Peace prize you so obviously covet, will you regret having sold the nation of Israel to her enemies for a little fame and glory?
Posted by: Dixie at November 1, 2007 9:57 PM
Yet "another" failed attempt of our (U.S.) ill informed and gutless government. Must we become as spineless as the Europeans, caving into Islamic terrorists. Mr. Carter is hardly one to be asking for advice on Israeli/Palestinian affairs. My wish is that when Hillary is elected President, she will be our "Devorah" and have bigger balls then our current, castrated president.
Posted by: David Ehrich at November 1, 2007 9:29 PM
She's going to the one president in recent history of America who was not the smartest peanut in the can of nuts, if you know what I mean.
Durring his administration he exhibited a very high degree of ignorance uncommon to the human species and in the past few years he has demonstrated to all of us that he has endeavored to build on that and it seems that he has succeeded in those endeavors. Thing is he seems to finally have a deciple who is called by Coni Rice. Strange how these kinds of people are coming out of the cracks these days.
Posted by: Frank Shrum at November 1, 2007 9:05 PM
Rice must be out her mind for asking advise from Carter. We all know where he stands on the Israeli-Palestinian issue.
Is our country so poor in smart peole to have to resort to a dead duck?
Rice is so concerned with her legacy that anything will do today. Sorry,this is not the way to run a country.
Posted by: JACQUES HADIDA at November 1, 2007 7:32 PM
Dear Ms. Rice: Why are you willing to negociate with terrorists. I remember Mr. Bush stating that the U. S. would never negociate with terrorists. Or did I misunderstand his statement? Mr. Carter is willing and ready to give away Israel to the Palestinian militants with no guarantee of any Peace
Posted by: Michael at November 1, 2007 5:23 PM
w3hat? Rice asking advice from Carter is like putting the fox in charge of the hen's coup. Bush cannot be a friend of Israel as long as he has Rice do his bidding.
Posted by: carol at November 1, 2007 5:07 PM
Big mistake. Big mistake. Ask Carter for advice? Big mistake, that is unless you ignore whatever it is he may say. Really big mistake. Could ever border of being called dumb, or really stupid.
Posted by: Joseph M. Upton at November 1, 2007 4:44 PM
Ms Rice and Mr Carter, like any misguided person, will go down in flames eventually. Anyone going against Israel will eventually crash. Israel is asleep spiritually at the hour. During the tribulation, she will wake up completely. For now, it is the same battle that has been for quite some time. The Palestinians will end up in the mud as well. It will take some time like a lot of things.
Posted by: Ed at November 1, 2007 4:05 PM
It is a terrible shame what Carter and Condoleeza Rice are proposing. They should both be taken out of the loop. Israel needs representation from the US that is not anti-semetic. They also need to remember their bible... Israel shall prevail.
Posted by: sandi at November 1, 2007 3:46 PM
What on earth is Secretary Rice thinking? Asking Jimmy Carter to help with the Israel-Palestinian problem is like asking Satan to correct sin. I used to have great respect for Secretary Rice but I am beginning to wonder if she knows what she is doing. Any agreement on the division of Jerusalem is going to prove disastrous for both the US and Israel. The US will be better off doing nothing than to follow their present course of action.
Posted by: Frances at November 1, 2007 3:44 PM
Asking Carter for advice on how to treat Israel is like asking Satan for advice on how to honor Christ
Posted by: Joel Alford at November 1, 2007 3:41 PM
I'm In utter shock that these so-called Christian Leaders would abandon their Christian beliefs and go against what God's word clearly states about coming against Israel.If they go through with dividing God's land,Israel. It will be to our destruction. The land of Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. God give them the Deed to the land. Asking Jimmy Cater for advise about this situation can prove to be very costly. You might as well have a blind man for a chauffer.
What book are these people reading ?
Clearly It's not the Holy Bible. We are commanded by God to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. God of heaven help us..Peace be with you,Cindy Duncan
Posted by: Cindy Duncan at November 1, 2007 3:29 PM
When will these morons learn the lessons of history?Israel is the Apple of Gods Eye.When you come against Israel its like sticking your finger in the center of Gods eye.The curses are sure to follow as surely as the rising of the sun.Woe unto any who dares defy Gods foreign policy regarding Israel.Gods not asking, "Can we make a deal?" He's decreed this is the deal.Its non negotiable!
Posted by: Dr. Allen Wilson at November 1, 2007 3:24 PM
American Jews is time to wake up, and come home. And with the thousands of religious and courageous Jews, we can change the dirty politics of Israel, where only the Arabs are treating humanly.
Posted by: Ana Pusar at November 1, 2007 2:26 PM
Jimmy Carter is a nice guy. But being nice has NO place when so many lives are at stake. He needs to go back over his copy of scriptures to see what G-d has to say about all this compromise. And how really unhappy HE is with it. A good heart needs reality.
Posted by: mary thiels at November 1, 2007 2:15 PM
I have never been so disappointed in a Secretary of State as Condoleeza Rice. I expected much more from her. A little common sense wouldn't hurt!
Posted by: Darlene Earnhardt at November 1, 2007 2:11 PM
I am so ashamed that 'Condi'Rice and Carter are from the USA. Watch what God will do 'for' them soon! Further, that Carter professes to be a Southern Baptist just shows how little sitting in church for 70+ years will do for the brain, never mind the spirit and soul! Thinking what these two are doing physically nauseates me!
Posted by: Dr Maurice and Rosie Stephens at November 1, 2007 1:22 PM
Dear Ms. Rice: Please visit Sderot. That is what the Palestinians always bring to the peace table and provide thereafter. You most certainly have picked some deck of cards from which to seek counsel...James Baker!? I've always had one question, and quite seriously so, about you: are you an anti-Semite?
Posted by: The Daily Gatway at October 30, 2007 7:25 PM
Carter surrendered the U.S. Embassy staff in Tehran to terrorists, so he is the logical person to ask about how to surrender Israel to yet more terrorists. Carter couldn't plant peanuts and get the rows straight, whereupon the Democrats thought he'd make an excellent President. We should remember, when the dust settles, that the Republicans wouldn't provide Rice with an at least more capable person for an advisor, either. With no apparent difference in the agendas of American political Parties for Israel, the best, happiest, and most peaceful days for the U.S. are passing rapidly behind us. NO nation will treat Israel like dirt, like a pawn, or like a nonentity, from this time forward without suffering the largest of consequences, and even the most militarily powerful who do so will be like chaff in the wind of Almighty G-d.
Posted by: Photon at October 29, 2007 10:12 PM
I am truly sorry to say that I am from the same Country as these two anti-semitist.
Both need to close there mouths and sit down.
Not only are they fatal for Israel, but for the USA also. We will only be blessed by BLESSING you. (not the Palestinians!!)
Posted by: suebee at October 28, 2007 4:36 PM
Much to my dismay, our Secretary of State is not looking after Israel's interest. As a professed Christian she has forgotten the roots of her faith which is the Old Testament (or Torah) Genesis 12:3 comes to my mind. May God preserve Israel. Shalom,
Dan
Posted by: Dannel R. Ballesteros at October 28, 2007 3:54 PM
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