Israel's Foreign Minister and oracle of peace Tzipi Livni was clearly caught off guard by the new Palestinian demand for an army for the "new" Palestinian State.
Livni publicly declared that all past agreements stipulated that a future Palestinian State would be demilitarized. A senior Palestinian participant in the talks said, "At the meeting in question we raised the demand for a regular army, meant to defend the independent state."
This latest, Palestinian demand brings to mind the philosopher George Santanyana's observation that people who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it. In the lead up to World War II, the British kept trying to satisfy Hitler's demands, and the more they gave the more Hitler asked from them.
Israel better wake to the fact that every time they try to curry favor by capitulating to the demands of their enemies they will find their adversaries making more and more demands. It is a cycle that will never end.
Attention to all my name is Yassar Arafat I am the leader of the Palestinians Arabs who don;t want Isreal as a secound State .If you give me the arms as I am the leader of a poor nation excuse me Arabs who are wandereers living at the dole of the UN .Who are being kept in poverty by the Isreali. All the other Arab countries give them respect and money, houses, citizenship. education . and opportunity to go into business.
Giive me the arms and I will Recticfiy this situatuion. Iam a man of peace . That is what I am telling you in your house. When he comes home his talk to the people is to Kill Kill Kill the Jews wherever you can find them . This is preached to all especially to children .
The only way to peace is to go in and take all the arms away and shoot any who resist.that is the only language that they understand. Look waht 60 years of giving land for peace. they want more now htey want an army.
Why hasn;t any one asked then to expain where 2 billion Dollars a year, that is 120 Billion Dollars has gone to what ,improvements have been created, housing,Utilities, schools. hospitals,roads ,industry,
Posted by: Murray Gorelick at May 30, 2008 2:30 PM
No surprise. Two months ago abbas declared that pa would not be demilitarized, and no one said a word. As a soverign nation the pa will have an army navy airforce and the right to buy what ever weapons it wants. It will have the right to station troops where it wants and treaty with third parties and allow foreign troops to be stationed in pa. this should have been addressed clearly in Oslo. Pray it is not too late. No one will move to stop the pa from arming except Israel
Posted by: arthur at May 28, 2008 9:15 AM
Name ONE palestinian promise to the "roadmap to peace" that was made. Next to asking for a regular undisciplined Army to 'defend' a made up State could be Reparations for the terror they caused from Israel!
Posted by: Sid Cowan at May 27, 2008 4:04 PM
Unfortunately, the Palestinians are like children,"the more you give them, the more they put their hands out". Have the Israelis forgotten the rifles they gave the Palestinians that were supposed to keep order as the Police but then turned them on the Israelis? Are the Israelis going to repeat the same thing but this time, make an army to destroy Israel? What kind of Jews are these people to release prisoners that come back as suicide bombers, create an army for people that continue to shoot rockets into the towns of Israel and give up the Golan Heights to the Syrians who will shower stones on those that pray and possibly create a Nuclear facility with the help of North Korea? Might as well give them all of Israel instead of one piece at a time while more Jews die in the process. Israel made themselves weak with their leaders just as America is doing now.
Posted by: Dorothy Wachsstock at May 26, 2008 10:16 AM
Israel will cease to be a nation if the Palestinians insist on a state in Israel..and with an army!!!!
Giving Syria back some of the Golan Heights is crazy..what is Olmert thinking..he's a wolf on the inside and it's about time he was sent packing like now..get him out of there. He's the worst leader Israel has ever had.
Israel needs to return to the God of their childhood..Israel would never have survived without God's intervention on their behalf..Israeli's poor choices have almost destroyed the nation..
Posted by: Mary at May 24, 2008 8:23 AM
Yoel Nitzaeim is 100 % correct, in all he says, & there's much more.!!!! Israel is the ONLY, one doing the giving, & the Palastinians, all the taking.!! When will both the Israeli &^ U.S. leaders, admit this is true, & quit horsein around, by letting the IDF go in & do the full job they want, to do.??? I'm so sick of all this liein & rheteric, I could puke.!!! Get rid of the real trouble makers, & let the Precious Jewish people get on with their lives, & let the Arabs, that started all this mess, be honest, for a change, & give the Palestinians part of THEIR, land.!!! They have plenty, & to spare.!!!!
Posted by: Do0na Frederick at May 23, 2008 5:37 PM
As I always say, the problem in Israel is not the Arabs, we know what they want we know what are their goals...The problems is with the Jews, there are no smart leaders...Always the same argument the same speech the same illusion...Peace with neighbors will come the day Israel decide that she isn´t eager for peace..Let them go behind the peace Israel...Israeli politician always fed hope in the Arabs, hope that it can be destroyed...The speech keywords "painful concessions", or "victims of peace", only give hopes to them...
Sorry that the Jewish population never choose the smart guys....
Posted by: Salomon Mizrahi at May 23, 2008 12:43 PM
I have seen this movie before. The only significant difference is the speed. This slow motion movie started right after the 6 six war.
Posted by: Tom Stern at May 23, 2008 11:37 AM
So Abbas demands an army! And of course an airforce and navy to go with it. Just as any self respecting Arab would prefer to have a gun and a sword rather than furniture or cooking utensils at home, so too must palestinians- presently one of the most armed populations in the world- have an army. And just who would this army attack? Take a wild guess. And as any deal other than the absolute surrender on the part of Israel would be considered an 'embassament' and the short end of the stick for palestinians, a palestinian army would be just the right thing to rectify their 'humiliation' at having to accept less than 150% of everything they demand. And someone, somewhere would be willling to give them jets and long range artilley to go along with all their other toys.
When the US offers al-qaeda a base of operations along the Canadian or Mexican border, the US will be the most stupid numb skulled nation in the world. Until that time, Israel holds that position with no challengers in sight.
Posted by: Jeremy Thompson at May 23, 2008 9:56 AM
Today, Mahmoud Abbas threatened to resign if peace is not reached by the end of the year. Ha! What peace can be reached with someone who does not recognize your existence? Who is he kidding? Let him resign right this moment! The world should understand that Mr. Abbas in addition to his entire staff is not interested in any kind of peace with Israel: they want the whole of Israel to be Palestine, and they consider Israel to be Palestine as I type these very words. How utterly absurd to have anything to do with such a miscreant! Why is Mr. Abbas a miscreant? He does not recognize the fact that the Holocaust occurred. He still celebrates the Nakba. He promotes anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic programs run on Palestinian television, especially for children to watch. He now wants an army to "defend" Palestine, yet he honors those who are suicide/homocide murderers against Israeli civilians. He turns his back on so-called Palestinian collaborators with the Israeli people--Palestinian police who capture Palestinian terrorists either preparing to commit terrorist acts or actually in the process of doing so. Now Mr. Abbas demands an army: for what? The total annihilation of the Jewish people in Israel--that's what! Please stop the talks you are engaging in with Abu Ala. Ahmed Qurei is an economist, not a statesman. His interests are not in the least for the Israeli people. As one who works in unison with Abu Mazen, Abu Ala does not speak the truth of his true intentions concerning the "future" of Israel. Why should he? It is to his better interest to keep on demanding and demanding and demanding for more and more and more because the Olmert government is dead intent and giving and giving and giving without anything in return. The terrorism continues. The rockets continue. The anti-Israel TV programs continue. The polls showing very high rates of anti-Israel approval continue. Bin Laden's support for the Palestinians continues. Just as post-war Germany and Japan were demilitarized, the PA and Gaza must be demilitzarized before any serious discussion about peace can take place.
Posted by: Yoel Nitzarim at May 18, 2008 10:12 PM
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